Libyan Developments
[Gilbert Achcar grew up in Lebanon, and is currently Professor at the School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS) of the University of London. His books include The Clash of Barbarisms: The Making of the New World Disorder, published in 13 languages, Perilous Power: The Middle East and U.S. Foreign Policy, co-authored with Noam Chomsky, and most recently The Arabs and the Holocaust: The Arab-Israeli War of Narratives. He was interviewed by Stephen R. Shalom.]
Who is the Libyan opposition? Some have noted the presence of the old monarchist flag in rebel ranks.
This flag is not used as a symbol of the monarchy, but as the flag that the Libyan state adopted after it won independence from Italy. It is used by the uprising in order to reject the Green Flag imposed by Gaddafi along with his Green Book, when he was aping Mao Zedong and his Little Red Book. In no way does the tricolor flag indicate nostalgia for the monarchy. In the most common interpretation, it symbolizes the three historic regions of Libya, and the crescent and star are the same symbols you see on the flags of the Algerian, Tunisian and Turkish republics, not symbols of monarchism.
So who is the opposition? The composition of the opposition is -- as in all the other revolts shaking the region -- very heterogeneous. What unites all the disparate forces is a rejection of the dictatorship and a longing for democracy and human rights. Beyond that, there are many different perspectives. In Libya, more particularly, there is a mixture of human rights activists, democracy advocates, intellectuals, tribal elements, and Islamic forces -- a very broad collection. The most prominent political force in the Libyan uprising is the "Youth of the 17th of February Revolution," which has a democratic platform, calling for the rule of law, political freedoms, and free elections. The Libyan movement also includes sections of the government and the armed forces that have broken away and joined the opposition -- which you didn't have in Tunisia or Egypt.
So the Libyan opposition represents a mixture of forces, and the bottom line is that there is no reason for any different attitude toward them than to any other of the mass uprisings in the region.
Is Gaddafi -- or was Gaddafi -- a progressive figure?
When Gaddafi came to power in 1969 he was a late manifestation of the wave of Arab nationalism that followed World War II and the 1948 Nakba. He tried to imitate Egyptian leader Gamal Abdel Nasser, who he regarded as his model and inspiration. So he replaced the monarchy with a republic, championed Arab unity, forced the withdrawal of the U.S.'s Wheelus Airbase from Libyan territory, and initiated a program of social change.
Then the regime moved in its own way, along the path of radicalization, inspired by an Islamized Maoism. There were sweeping nationalizations in the late 1970s -- almost everything was nationalized. Gaddafi claimed to have instituted direct democracy -- and formally changed the name of the country from Republic to State of the Masses (Jamahiriya). He pretended that he had turned the country into the fulfillment of socialist utopia with direct democracy, but few were fooled. The "revolutionary committees" were actually acting as a ruling apparatus along with the security services in controlling the country. At the same time, Gaddafi also played an especially reactionary role in reinvigorating tribalism as a tool for his own power. His foreign policy became increasingly foolhardy, and most Arabs came to consider him crazy.
With the Soviet Union in crisis, Gaddafi shifted away from his socialist pretensions and re-opened his economy to Western business. He asserted that his economic liberalization would be accompanied by a political one, aping Gorbachev's perestroika after having aped Mao Zedong's "cultural revolution," but the political claim was an empty one. When the United States invaded Iraq in 2003 under the pretext of searching for "weapons of mass destruction," Gaddafi, worried that he might be next, implemented a sudden and surprising turnabout in foreign policy, earning himself a spectacular upgrade from the status of "rogue state" to that of close collaborator of Western states. A collaborator in particular of the United States, which he helped in its so-called war on terror, and Italy, for which he did the dirty job of turning back would-be immigrants trying to get from Africa to Europe.
Throughout these metamorphoses, Gaddafi's regime was always a dictatorship. Whatever early progressive measures Gaddafi may have enacted, there was nothing left of progressivism or anti-imperialism in his regime in the last phase. Its dictatorial character showed itself in the way he reacted to the protests: immediately deciding to quell them by force. There was no attempt to offer any kind of democratic outlet for the population. He warned the protesters in a now famous tragic-comic speech: "We will come inch by inch, home by home, alley by alley ... We will find you in your closets. We will have no mercy and no pity." Not a surprise, knowing that Gaddafi was the only Arab ruler who publicly blamed the Tunisian people for having toppled their own dictator Ben Ali, whom he described as the best ruler the Tunisians would find.
Gaddafi resorted to threats and violent repression, claiming that the protesters had been turned into drug addicts by Al Qaeda, who poured hallucinogens in their coffees. Blaming Al Qaeda for the uprising was his way of trying to get the support of the West. Had there been any offer of help from Washington or Rome, you can be sure that Gaddafi would have gladly welcomed it. He actually expressed his bitter disappointment at the attitude of his buddy Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian prime minister, with whom he enjoyed partying, and complained that his other European "friends" also betrayed him. In the last few years, Gaddafi had indeed become a friend of several Western rulers and other establishment figures who, for a fistful of dollars, have been willing to ridicule themselves exchanging hugs with him. Anthony Giddens himself, the distinguished theoretician of Tony Blair's Third Way, followed in his disciple's steps by paying a visit to Gaddafi in 2007 and writing in the Guardian how Libya was on the path of reform and on its way to becoming the Norway of the Middle East.
What is your assessment of UN Security Council resolution 1973 adopted on March 17?
The resolution itself is phrased in a way that takes into consideration -- and appears to respond to -- the request by the uprising for a no-fly zone. The opposition has indeed explicitly called for a no-fly zone, on the condition that no foreign troops be deployed on Libyan territory. Gaddafi has the bulk of the elite armed forces, with aircraft and tanks, and the no-fly zone would indeed neutralize his main military advantage. This request of the uprising is reflected in the text of the resolution, which authorizes UN member states "to take all necessary measures ... to protect civilians and civilian populated areas under threat of attack in the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, including Benghazi, while excluding a foreign occupation force of any form on any part of Libyan territory." The resolution establishes "a ban on all flights in the airspace of the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya in order to help protect civilians."
Now there are not enough safeguards in the wording of the resolution to bar its use for imperialist purposes. Although the purpose of any action is supposed to be the protection of civilians, and not "regime change," the determination of whether an action meets this purpose or not is left up to the intervening powers and not to the uprising, or even the Security Council. The resolution is amazingly confused. But given the urgency of preventing the massacre that would have inevitably resulted from an assault on Benghazi by Gaddafi's forces, and the absence of any alternative means of achieving the protection goal, no one can reasonably oppose it. One can understand the abstentions; some of the five states who abstained in the UNSC vote wanted to express their defiance and/or unhappiness with the lack of adequate oversight, but without taking the responsibility for an impending massacre.
The Western response, of course, smacks of oil. The West fears a long drawn out conflict. If there is a major massacre, they would have to impose an embargo on Libyan oil, thus keeping oil prices at a high level at a time when, given the current state of the global economy, this would have major adverse consequences. Some countries, including the United States, acted reluctantly. Only France emerged as very much in favor of strong action, which might well be connected to the fact that France -- unlike Germany (which abstained in the UNSC vote), Britain, and, above all, Italy -- does not have a major stake in Libyan oil, and certainly hopes to get a greater share post-Gaddafi.
We all know about the Western powers' pretexts and double standards. For example, their alleged concern about harm to civilians bombarded from the air did not seem to apply in Gaza in 2008-09, when hundreds of noncombatants were being killed by Israeli warplanes in furtherance of an illegal occupation. Or the fact that the US allows its client regime in Bahrain, where it has a major naval base, to violently repress the local uprising, with the help of other regional vassals of Washington.
The fact remains, nevertheless, that if Gaddafi were permitted to continue his military offensive and take Benghazi, there would be a major massacre. Here is a case where a population is truly in danger, and where there is no plausible alternative that could protect it. The attack by Gaddafi's forces was hours or at most days away. You can't in the name of anti-imperialist principles oppose an action that will prevent the massacre of civilians. In the same way, even though we know well the nature and double standards of cops in the bourgeois state, you can't in the name of anti-capitalist principles blame anybody for calling them when someone is on the point of being raped and there is no alternative way of stopping the rapists.
This said, without coming out against the no-fly zone, we must express defiance and advocate full vigilance in monitoring the actions of those states carrying it out, to make sure that they don't go beyond protecting civilians as mandated by the UNSC resolution. In watching on TV the crowds in Benghazi cheering the passage of the resolution, I saw a big billboard in their middle that said in Arabic "No to foreign intervention." People there make a distinction between "foreign intervention" by which they mean troops on the ground, and a protective no-fly zone. They oppose foreign troops. They are aware of the dangers and wisely don't trust Western powers.
So, to sum up, I believe that from an anti-imperialist perspective one cannot and should not oppose the no-fly zone, given that there is no plausible alternative for protecting the endangered population. The Egyptians are reported to be providing weapons to the Libyan opposition -- and that's fine -- but on its own it couldn't have made a difference that would have saved Benghazi in time. But again, one must maintain a very critical attitude toward what the Western powers might do.
What's going to happen now?
It's difficult to tell what will happen now. The UN Security Council resolution did not call for regime change; it's about protecting civilians. The future of the Gaddafi regime is uncertain. The key question is whether we will see the resumption of the uprising in western Libya, including Tripoli, leading to a disintegration of the regime's armed forces. If that occurs, then Gaddafi may be ousted soon. But if the regime manages to remain firmly in control in the west, then there will be a de facto division of the country -- even though the resolution affirms the territorial integrity and national unity of Libya. This may be what the regime has chosen, as it has just announced its compliance with the UN resolution and proclaimed a ceasefire. What we might then have is a prolonged stalemate, with Gaddafi controlling the west and the opposition the east. It will obviously take time before the opposition can incorporate the weapons it is receiving from and through Egypt to the point of becoming able to inflict military defeat on Gaddafi's forces. Given the nature of the Libyan territory, this can only be a regular war rather than a popular one, a war of movement over vast stretches of territory. That's why the outcome is hard to predict. The bottom line here again is that we should support the victory of the Libyan democratic uprising. Its defeat at the hands of Gaddafi would be a severe backlash negatively affecting the revolutionary wave that is currently shaking the Middle East and North Africa.



you cannot bring your freedom through the bullets of others
By Basu, Biplab at Mar 25, 2011 00:21 AM
With best regards.
biplab Basu
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you cannot bring your freedom through the bullets of others
By Basu, Biplab at Mar 24, 2011 23:38 PM
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What do the Libyan people want?
By Peters, Devin at Mar 22, 2011 14:48 PM
It appears to me that the people in opposition in Libya and this is the point I agree with the author of this piece, are happy that a no-fly zone has been enforced. It will be up to them to do decide when it should stop and how the country should go forward. If it becomes clear the Western forces are simply acting out of greed, as many of us suspect in the west and around the world, it will be the responsibilty of the electorate of those western powers to force their governments to desist.
As a final point, I have highly cynical view of my government and the US Administration bordering on hatred, however I don't think anyone hear has accurately described what is really going on in Libya.
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What do the Libyan people want?
By Nikonov, Alla at Mar 22, 2011 17:51 PM
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Re: What do the Libyan people want?
By Peters, Devin at Mar 23, 2011 21:21 PM
Please can you clarify your question, I cannot understand exactly what you mean and don't want to answer the wrong point..?
Thanks
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The persons who asked Libya to be bombed
By Nikonov, Alla at Mar 24, 2011 20:26 PM
So, sinse when they are "people of Libya"?
Take care
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Advise Caution
By Jones, David at Mar 21, 2011 05:22 AM
It is easy to sit here and judge what is or is not a pure proletarian revolution. But the world doesn't work like that. This is not Bosnia, Iraq or Egypt any more than it is Nicaragua or the Phillipines.
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Advise bombs, to be MORE precise
By Nikonov, Alla at Mar 21, 2011 06:12 AM
NO ONE here speak about "pure proletarian revolution" be it in Libya or in Egypt. But USA IS the same old "good" imperialist power, and who is ignoring it better enlist to bomb anyone Obama does not currently like.
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But what about ...
By Damaschin, Raz at Mar 21, 2011 02:10 AM
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A good comparison - if I want my advise
By Nikonov, Alla at Mar 21, 2011 06:17 AM
Romania - I know a bit about it, being from USSR. Unfortunately, almost all leftists in the West simply bought Western imperialism version of what was done in the Eastern Europe in 1989.
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Why Progressives Should Oppose Western Military Intervention in Libya
By Sowers, Jeff at Mar 20, 2011 20:02 PM
US Citizens, as well as the citizens of Britain and France, should adamantly oppose western involvement in Libya because we should all know by now what to expect from our governments. Those on the left that support the intervention are failing to grasp the deeply nefarious nature of US objectives and the impending hell toward which this will propel the Libyan people. As evil as Gaddafi is, in this world of lesser evil choices, Gaddafi's regime at this moment is the lesser evil. Consider the choices.
Choice One: Western intervention.
Now that the imperial trio of the US, Britain, and France have descended upon Libya, the outcome is as predictable as it is tragic, as the pattern is now well established. Grind Libya down into a weak and devastated country through a protracted and brutal civil war, impose a vicious military-police state controlled and manipulated by western powers, and then give it a veneer of representative government. Repression, corruption, torture, etc. will be every bit as bad as under Ghadafi if not worse, but the prospects of the Libyan masses going up against a regime armed and backed by the most powerful nations in the world are remote. For practical purposes the face of the regime may be pushed aside from time to time, as Mubarak in Egypt, but the evil and murderous military-police state core will be almost impossible to extract for the foreseeable future.
Choice two: Non-violently seek reform within the context of the Gaddafi regime.
While challenging the rule of Gaddafi's regime through non-violent political action would be a very difficult and dangerous undertaking, one can imagine a scenario, through sustained and courageous efforts from both inside and outside of Libya, in which Gaddafi would be pressured into retirement, and steps taken toward greater political freedoms and protections for human rights by a more liberal and sane generation of leadership. All the while, the Independence of the Libyan army and police from the US imperialistic machine be maintained.
Neither of the choices are attractive. But the prospects for Libya taking steps toward freedom and democracy just got a lot worse with Western intervention.
The sad reality is that as long as the US and its imperialistic allies are able to rampage around the planet in a greed crazed campaign to control the world for the profits of of the few, there is simply not a lot of hope for the people of Libya, or Palestine, Haiti, Iraq, Afghanistan, Thailand, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, etc. The citizens of the United States and other western nations are in a privileged and powerful position to influence and reform our own governments. Among our primary tasks must be to stop our government’s imperialistic and criminal foreign policies. As we work toward this objective, we should not allow ourselves to be seduced by lofty rhetoric and propaganda into supporting imperialistic military interventions.
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quite the thing to wrap your brain around
By Grinder, Matt at Mar 20, 2011 04:40 AM
Do you you support the US bombing another country? No of course not, they are doing it for nefarious ends, obviously to insert a more pliable and agreeable dictator than Gadaffi, whom they haven't liked for a long time. Do you want to see thousands of Lybians massacred if Gadaffi wins? No, of course not. Will social progress in Libya (a more democratic regime) be possible if Gadaffi wins? No. Will social progress in Libya be possible if the rebels win? Possibly. Will there be a massacre if the rebels win? possibly. Will the US do eveything it can to install a new dictator, more trustworthy to them? yes, of course. Are they hypocritically claiming to be fighting for justice here while ignoring government crackdowns in Yemen a Bahrain, etc.? yes.
Do you support a no fly zone? This is a nuanced question. If the no fly zone results in a quick end to this war, far less deaths than otherwise would have happened, and the establishment of a more democratic government, then I will be glad it happened, rather than a continued dictatorship and a postwar massacre of rebels and innocents. If it does the complete opposite, then I won't be glad it happened. Does it mean I support a no fly zone? Not really. I support the theoretical idea of it, a way of helping the people of Libya get rid of their dictator and get a better government. Theoretically, if the no fly zone were enforced by a benevolent country with advanced weapons, then I would not be too worried as to what would happen after. Since it is enforced by real world capitalist countries, I am farily certain there is a high probablilty that this will end with a new dictator in Lybia, and lots of deaths. But who knows? "The west" knows that sending in ground troops to Lybia will be met with stiff guerrilla warfare, which they don't seem to want at this point in time. SO maybe the aftermath will lead to a better society without US or french or UK interference. On the other hand, a long protacted war will more probably lead to the toughest bugger out there coming out on top, who will probably be another dictator. hard to predict for certain.
All in all, the probability is higher that fewer deaths and social progress will be attained with a no fly zone than without, even with "the west" enforcing it. That doesn't make it "high probabilty" though, just "higher". I could be wrong about this probabilistic guess, but I don't think so.
And if people could not comdem me for not seeing it quite the same as you do, thus thinking I am a horrible person you will always condemn for the rest of your life for not seeing it exactly as you do, that would be great. This isn't a pissing contest to see who is the most hard core radical, it's about trying to understand the issues. I am just trying to figure this out myself, without a position set in stone. What I most want to see is an end to killing and social progress in Libya. I don't support the west imposing a no fly zone, given their record, rather I think that there is a higher probablility of some good coming out of this with it rather than without it, though the probablity is low. Best of luck to the people of Libya.
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I am not going to condemn you
By Nikonov, Alla at Mar 20, 2011 07:22 AM
I only care for the victims of imperialism, and there is NO WAY imperialism could help Libyan people. No-fly in Iraq was a crime in itself and paved the way for more crimes - in 2003.
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Won't get fooled again?
By Leven, Jim at Mar 20, 2011 00:07 AM
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I am NOT surprised that the noted
By Nikonov, Alla at Mar 19, 2011 20:18 PM
But not the same from Achcar. How the mightly fall.
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Re: Libyan Developments
By Hancock, Brian at Mar 19, 2011 16:36 PM
Thank you Mr. Achcar for your article. It reads to me as a reasonable and nuanced article.
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a few things
By McGehee, Michael at Mar 19, 2011 15:46 PM
(2) the NTC has been colluding with the west. this ought to sound alarms that this isnt a revolution but a regime change; that the us is in effect getting a client regime. the NTC has been saying they have "western values" and want a nofly zone and military attacks and that if they gain power they will honor foreign oil contracts and will "remember" their "friends."
(3) the plight of black africans is again ignored by the left. black africans in libya, both citizens and immigrant workers, are the most oppressed group in the country. they make up more than 1/3 of the country, but they are not present in this revolution. why? apparently that is because this is an "Arab revolt" and blacks are fleeing the revolution in terror, which is also attacking them.
(4)and i could be wrong but i havent really seen much about the NTC calling for democracy. it is awfully strange that the NTC adopted the kingdom of libya flag and that the "heir to the throne" is pleased by that and is saying he is ready to return to the country to "be a servant to the people."
these four things are important bits of information to consider--and are consistently missing in left media outlets--in order to understand what is going on. former government officials colluding with the us and the west to gain power while the most oppressed social group flees in terror and the heir to the throne is talking about returning is not symbolic of a progressive revolution the left should be supporting.
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Exactly and even more
By Nikonov, Alla at Mar 19, 2011 16:45 PM
By the way, the same leftists were also not infatuated with "color revolutions", ibcluding the "green" one.
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Re: Exactly and even more
By Kramer, Alex at Mar 19, 2011 17:05 PM
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/mar2011/pers-m19.shtml
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Re: Re: Exactly and even more
By Nikonov, Alla at Mar 19, 2011 17:34 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Exactly and even more
By D, Martin at Mar 19, 2011 21:37 PM
Forgive my ignorance but what is "MRZ?" I'd like to check it out.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Exactly and even more
By Guimond, Andre at Mar 19, 2011 23:55 PM
Also, here's the latest from RT on the western attack on Libya: http://rt.com/news/military-full-swing-libya/
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Exactly and even more
By D, Martin at Mar 20, 2011 01:59 AM
I'll check it out.
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You are welcome - MRZ is
By Nikonov, Alla at Mar 20, 2011 07:10 AM
http://monthlyreview.org/mrzine/
check up here http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2011/ahmad180311.html
and here http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2011/chandan180311.html
and there is another good one
http://www.counterpunch.org/bricmont03082011.html
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Re: a few things
By Kramer, Alex at Mar 19, 2011 16:50 PM
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Re: a few things
By Abson, Jill at Mar 23, 2011 13:21 PM
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Shame on the author! next time he
By Nikonov, Alla at Mar 19, 2011 15:28 PM
Just to see a Lebanese calling anti-imperialists to support imperialist bombing of Libya! of course, the bombs is the best tool to save lives.
And, by the way, it was really lame - try to differ between bombing Libya and "foreighn intervention". Just one word is sufficient - Iraq.
At least Wallerstein only said UN would not adopt such bombing policy.
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an informative and well intentioned article but I strongly disagree
By Emersberger, Joe at Mar 19, 2011 19:35 PM
"even though we know well the nature and double standards of cops in the bourgeois state, you can't in the name of anti-capitalist principles blame anybody for calling them when someone is on the point of being raped and there is no alternative way of stopping the rapists."
Our police, with all their defects, simply do not compare in criminality with the US and its allies internationally. About one million poeple dead in Iraq since 2003 - closer to 2 million if you consider a decade of depraved western policy that preceded thet invasion - should settle that point.
To play with Achar's analogy a bit, it is like calling in an even worse rapist to defend the victim - one who you should know will profit from his actions to victimize evem more people.
I simply reject that there is no other alternative. There simply is no alternative that the western powers would be willing to consider. Western countries supply the bulk of the owrld's arms. They cold defng all the dictators in the region - not just Gadaffi - if they wanted to.
In situations like this so many people get caught up in thinking within the constrainst of very criminal governments. This explains why some well intentioned people - who did not buy the WMD bulsh*t - backed the invasion of Iraq. They lmited themsleves to asking
"What can we support that will actually get implemented tomorrow that will immediately oust Saddam Hussein?"
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As a matter of fact in many non-privilelged
By Nikonov, Alla at Mar 19, 2011 20:01 PM
So the analogy looks even more wrong as means to persvise us to support such "cops"
Marx was SO right about ruling classes and their ideas being ruling ideas. One needs to try hard not to be swept by such ideas.
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Re: As a matter of fact in many non-privilelged
By McGehee, Michael at Mar 19, 2011 21:09 PM
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What are we promoting?
By Hausfather, Diego at Mar 20, 2011 05:05 AM
Then Qaddafi's troops began winning battles. They were using massive military weaponry against peaceful protests, as well as against rebel troops. They were certainly massacring civilians. Now, the most important questions are:
1. How can these massacres be stopped?
If there are other answers than air strikes against military targets, then I'd like to hear them. I'm not saying there are none, I'm just saying no one here has suggested anything concrete. How can we best express solidarity with the libyan people? I don't feel that Chavez' continued uncritical support of Qaddafi is justified. Indeed, if Western leaders had continued to react as Chavez had, the Left would be uniformly condemning them (as they should). I think the situation that involves the smallest loss of life, would be the best, perhaps involving a negociated settlement, maybe brokered by Lula.
2. Are any short term gains of reduced civilian casualties provided by the no-fly zone outweighed by the long term corrosive effect of US influence and power. Will the US/European forces try and occupy Libya despite vague wording to the contrary in the resolution?
I don't know the answer to this question. I don't think anyone does, and most reactions here seem to be based on gut feeling rather than facts or reasoned arguments. I don't see the US interest in getting rid of Qaddafi. Like Immanuel Wallerstein, I am surprised that they went through with the air strikes.
3. How does the Libyan repression compare with the repression in Bahrain and Yemen, stauncher, more "moderate" US allies. Why is there a double standard there?
Perhaps the Libyan strikes also serve as a distraction to allow these countries to violently suppress the pro-democracy movements with less scrutiny.
I don't think the situation is as simple as some here make them out to be. We have good reason to suspect the empire's true intentions, but I have a hard time knowing exactly what those intentions are here. They are certainly not humanitarian, but they could unintentionally serve that goal. Also, I don't see the US having the military capability to invade and occupy yet another country at this juncture, even with support from the Canadians and Europeans.
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Please let me know when you find
By Nikonov, Alla at Mar 20, 2011 07:18 AM
As'ad the Angry Arab who knows a bit about USA imperialism just poste this
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2011/03/bush-doctrine-revised-obama-puts-his.html
Western military intervention in Libya is far more dangerous: it is intended to legitimize the return of colonial powers to our region and 2) perhaps as importantly to abort democratic uprisings all over the region. Bahrain of today is the vision for Libya of tomorrow, as far as the West is concerned.
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Diego - in answer to your question
By Emersberger, Joe at Mar 20, 2011 19:49 PM
1) We shoudl be calling for a ban of arms exports from the so called civilized countries - which happens to be where most arms are manufactured. How is that not a concrete suggestion?
2) We could call for various forms of economic sanctions that target brutal and corrupt rulers like the Gadaffis. Why should their familes be able to stash their booty in the West? Why should they be able to go on shopping frees, including the purchse of advanced degrees (as one Znet articel recently pointed out about Gadaffi's son), in Western countries? How is that not a concrete suggestion?
Both these suggestions woud prevent massacres EVERYWHERE - not just in Libya. Why think inside the corporate media's box? Why go along with their highly selective outrage?
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I more or less agree, exept maybe
By Nikonov, Alla at Mar 21, 2011 06:21 AM
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Michael, you would be surprised
By Nikonov, Alla at Mar 20, 2011 07:14 AM
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